CyberPowerPC's Gamer Xtreme 4000: Now with Sandy Bridge
by Dustin Sklavos on January 4, 2011 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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- Intel
- Sandy Bridge
- CyberPowerPC
- NVIDIA
Build, Noise, Heat, and Power Consumption
I'll come clean and say I'm just not a fan of the cases CyberPower has used for the builds we've tested here. Understanding that cases are arguably one of the safest corners to cut, these have nonetheless felt both cheap and gaudy compared to the competition. The Thermaltake Armor A60 is a step up from the XION Predator they used for the Gamer Xtreme 8500 we tested, but my experience has been that more austere cases like the Antec Sonata, P180 series, and Corsair's cases exhibit superior noise characteristics while generally just looking better.
Having said that, the A60 seems to be one of the only corners that's been cut here. Everything else is fairly top shelf and actually looks to embarass the DigitalStorm BlackOps we reviewed recently. CyberPower opts to include higher quality Kingston HyperX RAM than the A-Data DigitalStorm used, and the connectivity on both the ASUS P8P67 motherboard and the case itself is superior. About the only thing missing is an SSD as a boot drive; with decent SSDs hovering around the $100 price point now it's difficult but not impossible to excuse. If CyberPower actually does meet the $1,399 quoted price we were given, the Gamer Xtreme 4000 looks to be a hell of a deal.
For once I'm not going to gripe too much about the overclock, either. While voltages haven't been changed at all in EFI (the P8P67 finally makes the jump from BIOS to EFI), nothing's been disabled or fixed to get that 4.4GHz turbo clock. CyberPower's builders just set the turbo ratio to 44x and called it a day, leaving all the motherboard's voltages at auto. It's not ideal, but at least the processor idles at a low voltage (and thus draws little power) and again, nothing was left disabled like in the other boutique builds we've tested. As a result, the Gamer Xtreme 4000 draws just 91 watts while idling, though that shoots up to a measured 373 watts under heavy load. Overall these figures aren't bad; for comparison my tower with an overclocked and undervolted Intel Core i7-930 and AMD Radeon HD 5870 idles at 190 watts (three monitors jack up the clocks on the 5870) and hits 320 watts under load. The load difference of 53 watts can be attributed to the GTX 570's higher power consumption along with the lack of finer voltage tuning on the i7-2600K.
Editor's Note: As this is the first encounter with Sandy Bridge for Dustin, it's a little tough to determine whether this particular overclock is good, average, lazy, etc. In retrospect, it looks like setting the max Turbo to 4.4GHz is pretty darn easy, and even conservative given the aftermarket cooling. Anand's 2600K testing got up to 4.4GHz using the stock Intel cooler, for instance. But without a bit more experience, it's still difficult to say how much more enthusiasts will wring out of Sandy Bridge, so CyberPower is lucky enough to get a bit of a pass on this one. Note #2: CyberPowerPC has left a comment indicating that the OC was set to 4.4GHz for all Turbo modes—whether single-core or quad-core—and it appears that they did so conservatively. We certainly understand that, as this is brand new hardware and everyone is still getting to grips with SNB overclocking.
Noise isn't really an issue either. The watercooling keeps the processor running fairly cool (as you'll see in the HWMonitor screen cap below) while producing minimal noise, leaving the GeForce GTX 570 as the primary offender. That said, under load the fans don't spin up all that much and the system runs pretty quietly overall; a case with better acoustics would probably silence everything once and for all.
The peak 1.35V on the processor core is unattractive but not horrendous, and overall thermals are excellent. Again, I'm really just happy to see the comparatively low idle voltage which is at least an improvement over most of the other fixed voltage overclocks I've seen.
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ABR - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
You mention the motherboard in this box "made the jump" to EFI. Does that mean the graphics card in it supports EFI? I.e. it can be used unmodified in a MacPro?Gothmoth - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
don´t know what a EFI bios has to do with the GFX card.i have an EFI board and can put in a 3 year old 8800 GT card.
your problem is more likely that the apple crappis build only to run with certain cards.
Stuka87 - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
Your board most likely has BIOS emulation going on to allow the old card to run. As the are extensive differences between EFI and BIOS/CMOS. Cards not supporting EFI will not function on a board with EFI only.Boards that are EFI only, without any BIOS emulation, require their video cards to fully support EFI. This is one of the reasons graphics cards for MacPro's are not standard cards. It is believed once PC's decide to finally ditch BIOS/CMOS, that graphics cards will become standardized between the two, allowing for (comparitively) cheap MacPro video cards.
Kaboose - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
Not a bad build over all, however it seems most games were gpu limited. Stepping down to a 2500k and lowering the price (or keeping it the same to avoid a price hike) would be a good choice for most gamers.Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
Right. I dont get why they used a 2600K at all since the 2500k is highly likely to overclock to the same 4.4GHz or perhaps even more due to disabled HT. $100 for 4 mostly unused threads and a 30% increase in cache seems like a waste next to a boot drive SSD. Especially if the IGP is disabled.Sihastru - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
2500K lacks HT and has 2MB of cache shaved off.Stuka87 - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
HT has limited use anyway. A hyper threaded core will not perform anywhere close to as well as a real physical core. And if gaming is the main purpose of the box, anything over 4 cores is a waste anyway. And the 2MB difference in cache most likely would not have much of an effect either for the majority of games.And since this box is designed for gaming, the 2500K would most likely perform identically to the 2600K.
Nentor - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
Actually if you look at the gaming benches in the SB review on AT you'll see that the 2500K is FASTER than the 2600K when it comes to gaming, so yeah, this is a weird choice Cyberpower made.Must be a marketing thing.
JarredWalton - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
Let's not get carried away, there. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridg...i7-2600K comes out ahead in six of the ten games, and there are certainly titles that truly fail to leverage multithreading (hello StarCraft II!). The net difference across the ten tests Anand ran gives the 2600K a 2.3% advantage--negligible, I know, but that certainly doesn't make the 2500K FASTER as you suggest; nearly equal is more like it.
Besides, people do plenty of other things with their PC besides gaming. Video encoding (x264) was as much as 31% faster on the 2600K, and the compiler test took 31% less time. 7-Zip (MIPS) and POV-Ray also give the 2600K a >35% lead.
If all you want is a fast gaming system, 2500K is probably the best bang for the buck. If every little speed boost is important, though, and you regularly run some heavily threaded applications, 2600K can end up anywhere from 10% to 40% faster.
Nentor - Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - link
No, I am right.The 2600K has a higher clock and that is the cause of the 2.3% advantage.
Either clock them the same and test or overclock them both as far as they go. I know which one I will put my money on, wanna bet?
This box is even called the "Gamer Xtreme", so it is obvious who it is buidl for.